Bad4Shidduchim had a post up entitled "You Know Your Parents are old When...They go on their own chol hamoed trip." http://badforshidduchim.wordpress.com/ Now granted, bad4 tends to write tongue in cheek rather often but this little gem caught my eye: "I mean, there are stages in life. You get married, and you go on trips like they’re dates. Very cute. Then you have little kids, and you take them places that are fun and educational. Then you have big kids, and they inform you where you’re taking them. Then you have teens, and they’re planning the trips, often leaving you behind. Then your kids are all out of the nest, and you get to sit at home sipping green tea and reading the Jewish Press Chol Hamoed Trip supplement, very happily enjoying not being at any of the places listed. And then when you’re really old you get nostalgic and bored and decide to go on a trip together. Like old times. Very cute."
I'm not sure whether to laugh first or to howl. Amazing just how different the perspective is depending on how old you are and where you are holding in life. "Like old times"? Nope, more like new times and a new stage in life. "Bored and nostalgic"? Hardly. Try finally having some time together as a couple with no one else around. Try having conversations with each other without having lots of other ears that could be listening in. Try two adults who have spent years in a mediated togetherness, never truly being alone, suddenly redescovering why they married each other to begin with. We frum people spend so much time emphasizing that the purpose of marriage is to have children so klal may continue that we've lost track of the fact that child raising and day to day involvement with children on a basic level comes to an end. We are living longer and longer today and there is going to be a time period where marriage is NOT going to be about having and raising children. It's going to be about building the somewhat interrupted relationship of two people, not seven. It's about preparing for the future, not staring bemusedly and wistfully at the past.
My husband and I have been going away together on vacation about twice a year for some time now. When we first went away someone asked me in all seriousness what we had to talk about for a week. Didn't we find ourselves getting bored without others around us? Honestly, boredom never enters the picture. What we did discover on that first trip, and on the others since then, is that we do pretty well as just the two of us. We have time to talk about whatever we want to. We can go and see any place we want to, without anyone voting but the two of us. We have time to figure out where we are going to go from here. What we've both discovered is that we still have dreams of things to do and places to go: life didn't end for us when our kids hit adulthood. And yes, one very important thing we discovered: absent children we function perfectly fine.
Not to say that we still aren't involved with our kids and our extended families--we are. But the years that are coming up for us aren't about raising children any longer, and they very much are about us. Whatever spark drew us together many years ago is still burning bright. Far from being something to joke about kinderlach, those "little excursions" that parents go on by themselves are something to file away for when you get to our position in life.
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The first time we had company for lunch on Shabbos where there were no children at the table, theirs or ours, we almost didn't know what to talk about--we figured it out really fast.
My kids joke about it when it's only the two of us for a Shabbos--they call us the honeymooners. They're not wrong. It just took us almost 30 years to get to that point.
"We are living longer and longer today and there is going to be a time period where marriage is NOT going to be about having and raising children. It's going to be about building the somewhat interrupted relationship of two people, not seven. It's about preparing for the future, not staring bemusedly and wistfully at the past."
Yes, it's now about continuing to pay for children and grandchildren.
I'd love to have a vacation with my husband with no kids. what a concept! thanks for giving me something to look forward to....
It's so funny that you should bring this up now.
I just spent a week on vacation alone with my husband sans children - something I cannot remember doing in ages and eons.
I turned to him on about day 3 and said, "You know, if this is what our "empty nest" years are going to be like, we're going to be very happy....".
It's nice to see that we can relate on a level that we haven't since year 1.
Thanks for the chizuk. Like Deb I can't wait until my husband and I can get a vacation together just the two of us. It's nice to know that it's not just possible but a great experience.
And JS, we're doing our best to raise our kids so that they know that they will need to pay for themselves, whatever it is that they need. Why? Because if I'm still working at 75 because the grandkids need money, just shoot me now.
Good post ProfK - my parents are in a similar situation, now that all us kids are married off and they have retired.
We are very chuffed that they are able to travel, whether for holidays or to see children and grand-children.
Most of all, they taught their children to seek to be self-supporting: best way to build and consolidate one's self-respect.
Enjoy your hols!!!
Anon613-London
One of my grandchildren asked me a question when he heard that my wife and I were going to be taking a long vacation. He asked "Zeideh, what do old people do on a vacation?" My answer to him was really simple--anything they want. Kind of weird that children and grandchildren don't seem to be able to see their parents outside of that parenting role.
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