Ever wish that you could say what you really feel about something going on in Klal? Ever wonder just why Klal acts/thinks the way it does? Here members of Klal can have the conversations they should be having but that aren't happening elsewhere, except, perhaps, in whispered conversations in dark corners. Say what you mean here, and let us hope that some conversation now will lead to changes later, some changes that are long overdue in Klal.
Friday, July 2, 2010
A July 4 Posting of a Different Stripe
With July 4 in only two days, you might find of interest the article at the following link, about Francis Salvidor, the Unsung Martyr of the American Revolution. And yes, he was Jewish.
Lion, If we're going to judge frumkeit now by the type of Anglicized names someone has, Klal is in deep trouble. Given this man's background the outside name was probably Francisco or Francesco and was anglicized while in residence in England. We aren't given his Hebrew name.
I don't think his level of frumkeit, or any lack thereof, had much to do with his work for the Revolution. Regardless, those in the colonies would simply have considered him a Jew, full stop, without worrying about his level of observance.
Those in the outside world with a "Jewish" problem aren't much worried about how Jewish that person is--reference the Nazis, yemach shemoh, who considered you Jewish for extermination purposes even if Klal did not consider you Jewish any longer because of intermarriage and lack of a Jewish mother.
Sigh, I agree in retrospect that LOZ was probably tongue in cheeking it--the dangers of responding to comments before that first cup of coffee is fully circulating.
5 comments:
"And yes, he was Jewish."
big deal. with a name like francis, how frum do you think he really was?
Lion,
If we're going to judge frumkeit now by the type of Anglicized names someone has, Klal is in deep trouble. Given this man's background the outside name was probably Francisco or Francesco and was anglicized while in residence in England. We aren't given his Hebrew name.
I don't think his level of frumkeit, or any lack thereof, had much to do with his work for the Revolution. Regardless, those in the colonies would simply have considered him a Jew, full stop, without worrying about his level of observance.
Those in the outside world with a "Jewish" problem aren't much worried about how Jewish that person is--reference the Nazis, yemach shemoh, who considered you Jewish for extermination purposes even if Klal did not consider you Jewish any longer because of intermarriage and lack of a Jewish mother.
ProfK: Methinks the Lion was merely mocking the type of comments your post would get if this was VIN or YWN.
Anyhow, interesting article. Thanks for the link.
Anonymous,
Sigh, I agree in retrospect that LOZ was probably tongue in cheeking it--the dangers of responding to comments before that first cup of coffee is fully circulating.
PROFK:
do you really think someone named lion is going to judge someone named francis?
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