tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post6879819054704048763..comments2024-02-23T04:39:49.329-05:00Comments on Conversations in Klal: Organized or OCD?ProfKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-60728786935972992662010-10-29T01:12:44.897-04:002010-10-29T01:12:44.897-04:00Scraps- Not only that, but having OCD doesn't ...Scraps- Not only that, but having OCD doesn't mean you're necessarily organized, either!Knitter of shiny thingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10495339297497300925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-20293085369837837292010-10-28T19:41:49.321-04:002010-10-28T19:41:49.321-04:00Honestly, people who use OCD as a pejorative for a...Honestly, people who use OCD as a pejorative for anyone who is well-organized are simply misinformed. OCD is a very real pathological disorder. However, being highly organized does not mean you have OCD!<br /><br />The National Institute of Mental Health defines OCD in the following way:<br />"Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, OCD, is an anxiety disorder and is characterized by recurrent, unwanted thoughts (obsessions) and/or repetitive behaviors (compulsions). Repetitive behaviors such as handwashing, counting, checking, or cleaning are often performed with the hope of preventing obsessive thoughts or making them go away. Performing these so-called "rituals," however, provides only temporary relief, and not performing them markedly increases anxiety."Scrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15911315552965685448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-42798397557638889952010-10-28T15:14:49.904-04:002010-10-28T15:14:49.904-04:00I agree that different approaches work for differe...I agree that different approaches work for different people. But it's not necessary to try and bring down someone whose approach is different from yours by assigning a label that is connected to a pathological condition to the other person. That's not about accuracy but about putting someone else down to make you look better.Kalmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-74309269484534988902010-10-28T10:35:07.504-04:002010-10-28T10:35:07.504-04:00Everyone needs to find what works best for them or...Everyone needs to find what works best for them organization-wise. I know people at work who spend so much time making lists that they never get anything on the lists done, wheras other people greatly benefit from lists. Some people manage to get lots done and done well and efficiently with only an occasional yellow stickie for a reminder. The important thing is for neither to act superior to those who use a different method like the nosy shoppers did to ProfK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-69054012826954563962010-10-28T10:16:27.065-04:002010-10-28T10:16:27.065-04:00Anonymous Shrink,
Take a deep breath. I am not tr...Anonymous Shrink,<br />Take a deep breath. I am not trivializing the real problems of those suffering from OCD. My point is that society in general has adopted many of the terms used for actual illness and pin the labels on others, others who are not suffering from any disease or disorder. If you can point to someone else's behavior and attach an illness flag to it, then it becomes something that you don't want to emulate, don't have to emulate, because it is out of the norm. Rather than being an admirable trait it becomes a pathological one.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-27032615256452942342010-10-28T10:03:24.268-04:002010-10-28T10:03:24.268-04:00OCD is a real, terribly difficult disorder that yo...OCD is a real, terribly difficult disorder that you trivialize unintentionally by comparing it with "simple" organization.<br />Think of organization as a spectrum, with the adaptive, functional organization as you experience it on the low, sub clinical end, and the impossible, anxiety provoking OCD of people who CANNOT leave the house without performing rituals to calm their anxiety.<br />sorry, off soapbox now...anonymous shrinknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-35286641495267420382010-10-28T09:51:50.398-04:002010-10-28T09:51:50.398-04:00There's a huge difference between someone who ...There's a huge difference between someone who is organized and someone who is OCD. However, it seems that pop culture and pop psychology have merged in a way that puts down many normal, fully-functioning people on the one hand and those with true diseases on the other.<br /><br />Your OCD example is just one of many. If someone is highly accomplished and driven he's a "type A personality." If a child doesn't do well in school or likes to daydream he's got ADHD. Someone gets mad and they have an anger management problem.<br /><br />Everyone wants to diagnose everyone else around them it would seem, even perfect strangers.<br /><br />If it works for you and doesn't interfere in your everyday life, I say ignore them.JSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-20865481253566547522010-10-28T09:45:45.347-04:002010-10-28T09:45:45.347-04:00I am very organized but far from OCD.
OCD is tota...I am very organized but far from OCD.<br /><br />OCD is totally different. If you have to have every kitchen cabinet and drawer closed when not in use, you are OCD. If you spend 10 minutes drying your hands after washing netilat yadayim, you are OCD.tesyaanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-24683947836191935922010-10-28T09:27:23.360-04:002010-10-28T09:27:23.360-04:00Lol Dave! Can I guess that your paper clips are al...Lol Dave! Can I guess that your paper clips are all lined up in separated groups by color, with blue being the first group followed by green, then red and then yellow?<br /><br />But seriously, if you have to work with someone who is totally disorganized you begin to appreciate those who are organized.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-55979224958881103352010-10-28T09:16:31.081-04:002010-10-28T09:16:31.081-04:00CDO. Compulsive Disorder, Obsessive.
And the lett...CDO. Compulsive Disorder, Obsessive.<br /><br />And the letters are in Alphabetical Order <b>like they SHOULD be.</b>Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04391023891253673160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-1557815915350662692010-10-28T09:11:32.040-04:002010-10-28T09:11:32.040-04:00From one OCDer to another :), I think it's jus...From one OCDer to another :), I think it's just jealousy speaking. They can't do what you are doing so they have to knock it. I've learned to ignore the comments and just do what I want to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-15202337112748269562010-10-28T08:35:10.532-04:002010-10-28T08:35:10.532-04:00You missed one that's uniquely Jewish. If you...You missed one that's uniquely Jewish. If you want to tell someone they're being waaay over organized just call them a Yekke. My answer to that is to answer back in a torrent of German. They back off fast. Sometimes they even say sorry.Trudynoreply@blogger.com