tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post5607064815979258531..comments2024-02-23T04:39:49.329-05:00Comments on Conversations in Klal: An Update on OorahProfKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-42877572681550410602008-02-18T13:45:00.000-05:002008-02-18T13:45:00.000-05:00D,Went to the link you gave and I didn't know whet...D,<BR/>Went to the link you gave and I didn't know whether to laugh or to cry. Okay, they finally got the PR angle right in the second billboard. Question is why they didn't learn from their mistakes in Williamsburg and think that others they make an appeal to might also have sensitivities that should be taken into consideration.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-57387039291619273822008-02-18T13:17:00.000-05:002008-02-18T13:17:00.000-05:00D,The person here in the neighborhood who will kno...D,<BR/>The person here in the neighborhood who will know exactly what the situation is apropos Oorah and the children in the RJJ schools (a macher in the school with access to and knowledge of the incoming finances) is out of town for a simcha. Yes, I'm going to speak with him as soon as he gets back. If there is something to M. Shick's allegations then that needs to be known. If there is nothing to the allegations, then that, too, needs to be known.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-68413274027385864042008-02-17T21:07:00.000-05:002008-02-17T21:07:00.000-05:00This has to be viewed with the following backgroun...This has to be viewed with the following background to be better understood. <BR/><BR/>1) There is a Hassidification going on among some, that bleeds over into the right wing 'Yeshivish' world, where Oorah is based, as well. For example the 'Yated Neeman' newspaper itself, where that advertisement appeared, adheres to such a policy re photos. They have copied certain things from Hassidic publications, such as that as well as the idea of having a weekly centerfold of photos of Hassidic Rebbes, Rosh Yeshivas and the like. They don't want to be perceived as being 'outfrummed' by the Hassidim.<BR/><BR/>2) There is also a history between Oorah and the Hassidic sects, which I think plays a role here.<BR/><BR/>See http://razorapple.com/2007/02/05/after-faux-graffiti-and-side-curls-kid-stays/<BR/><BR/>Also, googling "oorah billboard lee avenue" will turn up other citations as well.<BR/><BR/>Finally, did you investigate re the Schick comments ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-67740497329291384202008-02-17T11:37:00.000-05:002008-02-17T11:37:00.000-05:00Not to sound irreverant but with all the frum peop...Not to sound irreverant but with all the frum people who are professionally involved with PR you would think they would consult with those professionals instead of a Rav. Or at least consult both. Sounds like they created a PR mess here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-31650425789818362842008-02-16T22:41:00.000-05:002008-02-16T22:41:00.000-05:00Sort of fits that old saying about the road to hel...Sort of fits that old saying about the road to hell being paved with good intentions. Whatever Oorah wanted to do or tried to do is not what the end result was.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-2628286522433982622008-02-15T15:09:00.000-05:002008-02-15T15:09:00.000-05:00Makes me feel better that they at least asked a Ro...Makes me feel better that they at least asked a Rov about what to do, but still don't understand how they came to make a mistake like this. Seems like a real money and time waster to ask people who are already their clientele when who they were aiming for was someone entirely different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com