tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post3974718300869406967..comments2024-02-23T04:39:49.329-05:00Comments on Conversations in Klal: And so the War continuesProfKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-42672124023814106122012-07-16T18:31:10.677-04:002012-07-16T18:31:10.677-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.frum single femalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01592899863773572708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-66228513096092838702012-07-16T11:42:47.793-04:002012-07-16T11:42:47.793-04:00The story does sound ridiculous. I'm just pic...The story does sound ridiculous. I'm just picturing the rabbi telling everyone to wait a few minutes as he scrolls through all the apps and settings on the phone.<br /><br />Regardless, I'm with Abba. Who cares? Certain people are crazy. Don't associate with them. If you're actually part of that community and it bothers you so much, then leave. If you're not part of that community, then who cares? The only valid reason I can think of is that non-Jews or perhaps non-Orthodox Jews will assume you're just as crazy by association.JSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-47552088679897208252012-07-16T01:56:45.362-04:002012-07-16T01:56:45.362-04:00Mark SoFla:
The rabbi has the ability (and in fa...Mark SoFla: <br /><br />The rabbi has the ability (and in fact I've seen it done at many weddings) to talk to the eidim before the chuppah. In fact, rabbis who are more farfrumte are quite likely to do so, though not for cell-phone-related reasons.<br /><br />In any case, my second reason is stronger. It's laughable to suggest that a rabbi like the one in the story would have the technical know-how to check whether the phone had a filter or not.Chaimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-23162211792733404932012-07-15T21:49:15.642-04:002012-07-15T21:49:15.642-04:00PROFK:
"Has our community, or at least parts...PROFK:<br /><br />"Has our community, or at least parts of it, lost its mind?!"<br /><br />what do you mean by "our community"? why do you consider yourself part of such a community?Abbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06147724170190982376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-15084841044695829182012-07-15T20:54:31.127-04:002012-07-15T20:54:31.127-04:00Let's not, because it sounds like an urban leg...<i>Let's not, because it sounds like an urban legend.</i><br /><br />Yes, just like that story of a Rav physically and verbally assaulting a musician (Lipa?) that was performing on behest of one of the baalei simcha at a wedding.<br /><br />These must all be urban legend because they sound so unbelievable!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05760733574758883958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-32542207404461033992012-07-15T17:16:32.726-04:002012-07-15T17:16:32.726-04:00Not mekabel this story as told. I'm with Chaim...Not mekabel this story as told. I'm with Chaim. No mesader kiddushin with any sechel would pull a stunt like this under the chuppah.efrexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-13735345579481367522012-07-15T15:35:59.952-04:002012-07-15T15:35:59.952-04:00"Let us assume that this story is true as it ..."Let us assume that this story is true as it was reported."<br /><br />Let's not, because it sounds like an urban legend. Even if a Rav was concerned about it, he'd speak to the baalei simcha beforehand. Another giveaway point is the implication that a rav, presumably with little technical training, could quickly look at a smart phone and determine whether it had a filter or not.Chaimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-16309985984597851362012-07-15T13:24:19.397-04:002012-07-15T13:24:19.397-04:00If this was so important for that rabbi then why d...If this was so important for that rabbi then why didn't he mention this to the parents before the chupah that he wouldn't allow aidim without phone filters? <br /><br />And since when does the mesader kedushin have any say into anything other then standing up there and reading a few words? You don't even need a person to be a rabbi to be a mesader kedushin as long as you have a valid licence from the state. Our parents chose our aidim at our wedding--rabbi didn't even know who they were until they were up there under the chupah, and it wasn't his business.Shimonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-48735316630428646432012-07-15T12:03:25.130-04:002012-07-15T12:03:25.130-04:00More importantly, if the eid had been a gvir (a we...More importantly, if the eid had been a gvir (a wealthy man that supports local Torah institutions), would he (the Rav) have have said anything. No way!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05760733574758883958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-30968966273069021142012-07-15T12:02:40.143-04:002012-07-15T12:02:40.143-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05760733574758883958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-61148163172197879012012-07-15T12:00:46.646-04:002012-07-15T12:00:46.646-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05760733574758883958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-24623580048497722882012-07-15T11:07:39.775-04:002012-07-15T11:07:39.775-04:00I don't remember filters on the cell phone eve...I don't remember filters on the cell phone even being mentioned in the Torah (unless you extrapolate some type of shmiras eynayim thing--and then you can just walk around blindfolded)--but i do remember something about not embarrassing people in public.AztecQueen2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/09371826731550331938noreply@blogger.com