tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post8802633654654768307..comments2024-02-23T04:39:49.329-05:00Comments on Conversations in Klal: On Four-Letter WordsProfKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-8174150683846672022008-06-20T16:36:00.000-04:002008-06-20T16:36:00.000-04:00Why yes they do G, particularly if they are uttere...Why yes they do G, particularly if they are uttered with the same degree of loudness and intensity as oh s--t would be uttered at. And they have the advantage of lightening things up a bit, especially if those hearing you begin to crack up.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-51665500172302359422008-06-20T15:48:00.000-04:002008-06-20T15:48:00.000-04:00Uh, huh.'Cause those words get the point across:)Uh, huh.<BR/><BR/>'Cause those words get the point across:)Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08512231582715592098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-57778150915338571832008-06-19T22:22:00.000-04:002008-06-19T22:22:00.000-04:00G,In reference to your comment Devil's Advocate:Th...G,<BR/>In reference to your comment Devil's Advocate:<BR/><BR/>They're emotional rather than rational or logical<BR/><BR/>And? That never has a place?<BR/><BR/>of course emotion has a place in conversation. But there are better, more expressive words available for when it's emotion you want to show. There's always "ouch" if something is paining you, or its alternative "youch." And then there is the expletive "oh applesauce" (I believe from the movie Thoroughly Modern Millie) which will get you far fewer glares then the usual choices. And if you still insist then you can always go with equine manure.ProfKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954446826821665314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-19869521074657880012008-06-19T16:22:00.000-04:002008-06-19T16:22:00.000-04:00I work in less formal industry than typical corpor...I work in less formal industry than typical corporate America and my boss always tells us what a "F*%&-ing great job" we are doing - this is at meetings with the whole department!SaraKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08053908720926177402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-28751038744002454762008-06-19T15:07:00.000-04:002008-06-19T15:07:00.000-04:00Heck and darn came into being as substitutes for h...Heck and darn came into being as substitutes for hell and damn. But since everyone knows what words you are using them in place of and the original flashes into a listener's mind along with the substitute, what have you gained by using the substitute?<BR/><BR/>I think though that referring to using swear words by frum people, it's way more the men then the women. But I'm guessing that that would be the case in secular society too. Cursing seems more of a male thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-2471881232974433272008-06-19T13:28:00.000-04:002008-06-19T13:28:00.000-04:00I think for a lot of people damn and hell aren't c...I think for a lot of people damn and hell aren't considered as real swear words. There are so many places where they are used in a positive sense. My boss always uses at meetings "that was a damn good job you did" or "that was a damn fine idea." It's the other curse words that bother me a lot more and you hear them everywhere. My 8 year old heard the f--- word on the bus coming home from yeshiva and then asked me if that was a word we allowed in the house. We don't but that other frum kid was happy to pass it along to everyone else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-3356668736365228062008-06-19T12:19:00.000-04:002008-06-19T12:19:00.000-04:00I don't use profanity, and I try to avoid cursing ...I don't use profanity, and I try to avoid cursing as well (I make the distinction for d*mn and h*ll) -- and so far my kids don't know the words. We're trying! The worst thing my kids can think to call each other is "stupid idiot" and I don't really allow that either. Hadn't thought of giving them a thesaurus though, and encouraging more inventive and flowery insults. Might be fun, and distract them from actually insulting each other.<BR/><BR/>They're extremely well-read for their ages, though, and even if I do kind of oversee what they read, a lot of it is from the public library. So that's 8 kids who should know how to use proper English. Doesn't make a dent in society, but it's something.<BR/><BR/>I agree that there's no need for profanity. English is a pretty colorful language without it.miriamphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14339767447913960853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-32666076335817375722008-06-19T12:07:00.000-04:002008-06-19T12:07:00.000-04:00What do you do with the word hell then? It's not ...What do you do with the word hell then? It's not a curse word by itself, just a bad place that most religions talk about. And if someone says "go to hell" that may be the precise place they wish you would go to. Or what about when it gets used positively like in That's a helluva good job you did yesterday?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-73388170335971018202008-06-19T12:00:00.000-04:002008-06-19T12:00:00.000-04:00Devil's Advocate:They're emotional rather than rat...Devil's Advocate:<BR/><BR/><I>They're emotional rather than rational or logical</I><BR/><BR/>And? That never has a place?Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08512231582715592098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2096776708897685863.post-78102906145678098362008-06-19T11:24:00.000-04:002008-06-19T11:24:00.000-04:00Brilliant post! :: tips hat ::Brilliant post! :: tips hat ::Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com